Mar 6, 2026
Rob and Zach chat with Joonas Turner (Downwell, Noita, Cult of the Lamb), Jukio Kallio (Fall Guys, Minit, Dave the Diver), and Jan Willem “JW” Nijman (Super Crate Box, Ridiculous Fishing, Minit) about their landmark twin-stick wasteland shooter, Nuclear Throne, and its recent blowout 10th anniversary update. They discuss reopening a project after a decade, balancing through play, the decision to not implement traditional invincibility frames, the shifting culture of what makes a design “engaging,” and more!
Audio edited by Dylan Shumway
Discussed in this episode:
Nuclear Throne
https://nuclearthrone.com/
Controls You Can Feel: Putting Tactility Back Into Touch
Controls
https://youtu.be/OIOitNx9RHI?si=vcV3GCcsiy1W4Efr
Spelunky
https://www.spelunkyworld.com/
Shoot First
https://www.indiedb.com/games/shoot-first
Crimsonland
https://www.crimsonland.com/
Downwell
https://downwellgame.com/
Tormentor x Punisher
https://tormentorxpunisher.com/
PAPERHEAD
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2680280/PAPERHEAD/
Jukio’s Bandcamp
https://jukiokallio.bandcamp.com/